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Title: Strategy PC Games
Post by: stemcider on July 15, 2014, 03:21:26 pm
I am hugely in love with and addicted to the Europa Universalis series. I cannot get enough. Who's with me?

In this thread we can discuss Grand Strategy Games (or, GSGs as they are known elsewhere), post screenshots/AARs/DARs of your current/old games, talk about new and upcoming games (Hearts of Iron 4), or just about anything else that relates to GSGs for a personal computer.

I have other Paradox Interactive games: Victoria 2, Crusader Kings 2, Hearts of Iron 3, but the learning curve for those is so much higher than EU3 or EU4. One day...

EDIT: It doesn't have to be historical GSGs either. Games like Galactic Civilizations are just fine.

EDIT: Changed to just Strategy PC Games to open up the thread a bit.


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: Calandale on July 15, 2014, 03:36:21 pm
I like most of the paradox titles, but yeah, HOI is too much for me.

I think my favorite EU is 2. The historical grounding was really rich with
some mods. EU3 changed the paradigm, and any historical mod feels like
a betrayal of that design switch.

Played a lot of the original Vicky and CK, but couldn't get into the later versions.


One much older PC game that I loved was Medieval Lords (SSI I think). It was basically
empires of the middle ages on computer.


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: stemcider on July 15, 2014, 03:49:28 pm
I would like to try out EU2 sometime because I have read similar things (Eu2 being the most historical).

Medieval Lords huh? I wonder if GOG has it.

They don't.

But is available on abandonware: http://www.myabandonware.com/game/medieval-lords-soldier-kings-of-europe-17e (http://www.myabandonware.com/game/medieval-lords-soldier-kings-of-europe-17e)

(http://www.myabandonware.com/media/captures/M/medieval-lords-soldier-kings-of-europe/medieval-lords-soldier-kings-of-europe_10.gif)

Awesome.


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: Calandale on July 15, 2014, 03:57:03 pm
Yep. I was really happy to get a copy of it again.

I still have the manual somewhere.


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: Sluggonics on July 15, 2014, 04:00:57 pm
I really miss SSI. 

I guess Paradox sort of took over that strategy game genre for a number of years, though, producing titles on lots of obscure eras and conflicts.

I have a copy of Pride of Nations, and the Franco-Prussian War expansion, which I got for cheap during a Steam sale, but still haven't played it.


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: usrlocal on July 15, 2014, 05:09:20 pm
I'm with Enrico. EU2 all the way. Played around with EU3 a bit, but was turned off by the (unnecessary) 3D graphics. I really liked Victoria too - I should get back into that. HOI is just too goofy - I think they stretched it too far when porting the engine to WW2.


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: Greeves on July 15, 2014, 09:49:41 pm
I've got HOI, EU2, and Victoria and I find HOI the easiest to get my head around!  I've struggled with EU2 (and haven't really tried Viccy yet).  It's not that I don't like it - I want to like it - it really looks good.  It's just I'm having a hard time locking down the rules into my walnut-sized brain. Maybe I should go back and give it another shot...

I've also got a number of games by John Tiller particularly from his Squad Battles series - sort of hex and counter video games.


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: Osprey on July 16, 2014, 06:40:00 am
I had a good time with X-COM, both the older PC version and the newer XBox versions. I bought the first edition of HoI when it came out and it had so many bugs it was a disaster. Kept me from buying any other follow-ups. Guess they fixed them all. 


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: usrlocal on July 16, 2014, 07:55:02 am
I had a good time with X-COM, both the older PC version and the newer XBox versions. I bought the first edition of HoI when it came out and it had so many bugs it was a disaster. Kept me from buying any other follow-ups. Guess they fixed them all. 

I played the crap out of the original X-COM from Microprose. Perhaps the best computer game ever made. I recently tried the newer version that came out on the iPad, but I lost interest in it quickly - although it's slicker, it seems more dumbed down compared to the original.


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: usrlocal on July 16, 2014, 07:56:05 am
What I'm playing now is 'Master of Magic', which I picked up from Gog.com for something like $1.50. Really primitive graphics, but oh, the gameplay!!


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: Rockhopper on July 16, 2014, 08:21:20 am
I'm not playing too much computer stuff nowadays, but I do dabble occasionally. Its fun to get my kids hooked on the old classics.

I loved Civ I/II, Master of Orion I/II, Master of Magic back in the day.

I liked EUIII alot. I've played around with CKII.


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: The Grinch on July 16, 2014, 11:00:12 am
What I'm playing now is 'Master of Magic', which I picked up from Gog.com for something like $1.50. Really primitive graphics, but oh, the gameplay!!

Cool! I played that 20 years ago and loved it.  Glad to know it's available again.  I wish someone would re-issue it with updated graphics.


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: usrlocal on July 16, 2014, 11:04:35 am
What I'm playing now is 'Master of Magic', which I picked up from Gog.com for something like $1.50. Really primitive graphics, but oh, the gameplay!!

Cool! I played that 20 years ago and loved it.  Glad to know it's available again.  I wish someone would re-issue it with updated graphics.

I adjusted to the graphics pretty quickly. After all, I used to play games like that heavily in the 90s anyway.   ;D


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: Calandale on July 16, 2014, 01:25:42 pm
MoM was great.


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: usrlocal on July 16, 2014, 02:34:31 pm
MoM was great.

Still is!

 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh8mNjeuyV4)


Title: Re: Grand Strategy PC Games
Post by: Kreator82 on July 16, 2014, 05:09:11 pm
I used to be obsessed with Civ 2 back in the day. It was the first strategy title that really grabbed me.


Title: Re: Strategy PC Games
Post by: stemcider on July 17, 2014, 03:33:05 pm
Ultimate General: Gettysburg - http://store.steampowered.com/app/306660/ (http://store.steampowered.com/app/306660/)

Its in Early Access, but it looks very interesting. I'll have to keep an eye on it.


Title: Re: Strategy PC Games
Post by: S Trauth on July 20, 2014, 06:09:19 am
John Tiller has started putting out demos within the past year or so.

You can grab them from the Tiller site.

I also have them at my own site -and this also includes the Ancient Warfare series by Paul Bruffell and published by HPS Simulations.

http://hist-sdc.com/demo/index.php


Edited to add: Just to clarify, these are not the ones published by Talonsoft.


Title: Re: Strategy PC Games
Post by: Sluggonics on July 20, 2014, 10:06:07 am
Yeah, I always enjoyed Tiller's old Talonsoft titles - all of his Civil War battles were well done.

My PC strategy gaming obsession started with Railroad Tycoon (which I think came out before Civilization?  I may be wrong there) and Civilization.  I really loved turn-based strategy, and was pretty disappointed with turn-based PC strategy games were largely abandoned in favor of real-time strategy.  I put my time in with Europa Universalis and still enjoyed it, but it was never quite the same for me.  Fortunately, Civilization continued to evolve - though my fondest memories are still of the first two Civ games.  But maybe there's also an element of pining for my lost youth in there, too.   ;D


Title: Re: Strategy PC Games
Post by: Calandale on July 20, 2014, 10:55:19 am
Railroad Tycoon was awesome! My ex called it Rail Creep, because it ate up so many of our early days together.


Title: Re: Strategy PC Games
Post by: weateallthepies on July 20, 2014, 06:41:42 pm
I've been having a lot of fun with Commander: The Great War. It's pretty light hex stuff, kind of a grand panzer general type game for WW1. I believe the ipad version is nearing release.

Also Unity of Command is well worth a look, can be had very cheap and on sale quite often.


Title: Re: Strategy PC Games
Post by: NthPower on July 26, 2014, 03:00:47 am
I've been playing some Civ 5 recently.  I really like it with the expansions.

I haven't played Fallen Enchantress in awhile, but that's another one I've enjoyed.

I should sit down and get some EU4 time in.  I end up playing some and then stopping, then forgetting what was going on, so I restart.