GMT's The Halls of Montezuma seems to get ripped apart too. I look at it every year during the GMT Fall Sale, but inevitably drop it for something else.

What say the people who have played it?

I think MMP's Guadalajara has been picked on too, mainly because it was missing a chart (for air points, if I recall correctly). I solo'd it once, and it seemed fun enough.

I certainly don't agree with this. There are TONS of games out there, and we have limited time. I can certainly understand if someone wished to play enough of something to get really good, with the hopes of making it "their" game for the rest of their lives. Let's be honest... there are some complex games out there that really do require an intellectual, economic, and temporal investment.  So one with such an inclination would certainly be interested in choosing a game/system that is well supported, advertised for, and continues to attract some kind of fan base.

Would anyone still be playing World in Flames, if it never evolved through rules updates and expansions? What if wifwendell had tacked himself onto SPI's old Cobra in the 80's? Would he still be playing it? And does cobrawindell have the same ring? 

I couldn't think of anything that I considered bad, because I typically research the heck out of stuff, so I usually know what I am getting.

Gotta agree with you about U-Boat Leader though. I've been hooked on Hornet Leader, and pre-ordered UBL. I was very disappointed. So, +1.

Alright, I'm onboard at Friendless.

http://friendlessstats.dtdns.net/dynamic/result/Rockhopper01

Looks like wargames are the greatest for me, but only slightly above strategy games, and family games. Such is the danger of having, you know, a family. 

To the extent that the games I play require it... yes I can.

And if we're going to obsess on LOS, then you'll need to integrate weather, ground foliage, and smoke to your map.

Everything, EVERYTHING in a wargame is an abstracted reduction in complexity from The Real Thing. To say that "a process of 3D geometry... cannot be resolved using a two dimensional map" is just silly.

Firing a bullet is a process of physics, and we resolve it just fine with dice.

I've pretty much stuck to Pro Cycling Manager on the PC for cycling. My computer game playing time is limited nowadays, but I've played more PCM the last few years than anything else. The newest 2014 version just came out a month or so ago, and is fun, but I've seen a few issues still... like the inability for AI teams to form sprint trains.

I looked into Tour: Cycle Free, which is a print and play game a dude on BGG made. Might be fun if you're crafty.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/40601/tour-cycle-free

This is indeed a great way to play. The game will automatically introduce expansion teams, league realignments, team moves and changes, financial changes, everything. I had a blast starting a league in 1901 once, I think I played until 1918 or something like that.

Really neat stuff, but you'll have to work pretty hard to prove them "superior to all other forms of wargame boards."

1. Storage.
2. Many people have no problem visualizing contours on maps, so actually having real contours adds no benefit. After all, I am perfectly fine with flat counters with numbers on them, in lieu of a bunch of little dudes.

Some people can just create things, build models, create art, etc. I just don't have the knack, nor the interest to create something like a pnp game.

Formula D is kinda fun, the kids like it.

I'm not playing too much computer stuff nowadays, but I do dabble occasionally. Its fun to get my kids hooked on the old classics.

I loved Civ I/II, Master of Orion I/II, Master of Magic back in the day.

I liked EUIII alot. I've played around with CKII.

Sent an email to the dude to get added, we'll see how I waste my time soon enough!

Physical board for me as well.  VASSAL is certainly super cool, and I would use it if I had to. But I have just too many little niggly issues. Banged my hand up, and still don't like using a mouse.

I agree with you in principle, but just keep in mind that the way you expressed this is completely illogical and filled with contradictions. You're all for "the fresh air of freedom," only after you complained about how other people do things. And in a single sentence you trashed the wants of others ("their world to be the only world") with a want of your own (by establishing what should be talked about: "have them talk to gamers of all types instead of being a bunch of misogynistic old c****").

I'm just sayin'.

Oh he has no class, I agree with that. I was just pointing out the ludicrousness of the media and various Offended Parties using extreme terms that left little room for truly disgusting things.