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« on: July 16, 2014, 07:22:02 pm »

I've played a bit of 1830. I own 1856, 1860, 18AL, and 1830. I have two willing newbs. Where would you start them?
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2014, 07:40:32 pm »

How much do they like things harsh?

The 1830 short game is the way I got hooked, because of how intense the pressure is.
The full '30 is pretty good to begin with too, but it's a longer investment; less harsh though -
people have time to build more. 18AL is a slightly more forgiving version of '30.

'56 is more complex, yet very harsh. It's perhaps my favorite in the series, but not a great
starting game. The loans add a layer of decisions that can really turn people off.

Haven't played '60 yet. I hear it's a good intro though.
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2014, 07:42:53 pm »

'56 is more complex, yet very harsh. It's perhaps my favorite in the series, but not a great starting game. The loans add a layer of decisions that can really turn people off.
1856 was my intro. First time ever playing an 18XX game and it went on for like eight hours. I haven't looked at an 18XX games since (although I would like to at some point).
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2014, 09:59:45 pm »

Most of our '56 games lasted under 4 hours. People seemed unable to avoid bankruptcy.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2014, 06:36:50 am »

Most of our '56 games lasted under 4 hours. People seemed unable to avoid bankruptcy.

I'm fairly certain we were doing something wrong, just never bothered to figure out what it was...
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 10:57:21 am »

Perhaps not. If people are really cautious, these games can be long.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2014, 12:53:23 pm »

Poseidon is 18xx with the theme filed off and plays in a reasonable two hours, but I understand most 18xx players find it dull.

This discussion made me pull it down off the shelf and set it up for a solo play.
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2014, 01:01:22 pm »

For a not-quite 'xx, that captures the spirit well (IMO) without as much effort,
I'd suggest Baltimore & Ohio.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2014, 01:07:56 pm »

For a not-quite 'xx, that captures the spirit well (IMO) without as much effort,
I'd suggest Baltimore & Ohio.
Thanks for the suggestion.

*runs off to check BGG*

But... Eagle Games and Winsome Games. Yeah, can't do that. Burned by Eagle Games customer service too many times and Winsome Games is a jerk.

Thanks, tho.
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2014, 01:10:47 pm »

Heh. Pity. Winsome has a lot of lighter games that catch a bit of the 'xx flavor without the commitment.
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2014, 03:48:35 pm »

Are 18xx games soloable at all?
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2014, 03:58:37 pm »

Are 18xx games soloable at all?

Enrico has at least a couple reviews, so they're at least that soloable.
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2014, 04:22:56 pm »

I find them very much so. You can even sketch out general strategies in
them pretty easily - sorta like written orders in a wargame.
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2014, 04:24:40 pm »

Good to know. I've been interested for a while now. I'll try to grab one for cheap next time I see it.

I might even be able to get my girlfriend to play with me. She really likes Silverton.
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2014, 04:26:51 pm »

18AL and 18GA are available for free PnP.

I made really crappy copies of both without much effort.
Good way to test out whether you like. They're not the best games,
but they're fairly solid representatives of the 1830 branch of the family.
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